- by 横川光恵
- 2025年9月2日
After the new law, the game in Russia may rise in price by 18%, Nival refuses our market
Our beloved State Duma has adopted a new bill. According to him, foreign IT companies that sell any content in Russia are required to pay VAT in the amount of 18%. What does this mean for us, ordinary buyers? Yes, nothing, in general, good.
Foreign companies selling programs, games, music, films and other digital goods and services in Russia should be registered with the tax service and report on income in our country. As you know, the so -called “Google tax” will affect not only the largest giants like Google, Apple And Microsoft, but also digital video games stores such as Steam, GOG or Origin.
“Google tax” should still be adopted in the Federation Council and approve with the president. If this happens, the law will enter into force on January 1, 2017. The Ministry of Finance expects that after this the country’s budget will be replenished by 10 billion rubles.
It is not yet known exactly how exactly the prices in the digital stores of the video game will change. They probably will simply increase by the same 18%.
But some are already abandoning our market. Chapter Nival Sergey Orlovsky He said that the company will no longer make games only for Russia with an sight to the domestic audience as the main one, and also cease to release localization of foreign projects.
Nival trades through Russian and foreign legal entities, and, according to Orlovsky, "In fact for Russian VAT companies,". The market of our country is not so profitable to mess with it after the “tax on Google”, therefore Nival will switch all its attention to the international audience.
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Inside me, a voice still lives, which converts Russian price tags at the rate of 2012. Really, it was better before.
Gamers are not ordinary citizens. Ordinary citizens are real patriots, so they do not play games, do not go to the Internet, information about Russia and the world will learn from the TV. Rare exceptions that still play games, and so swing them from torrents for free, the thought of buying games will not even occur. Therefore, when in the country the crisis of God himself ordered to force these villains-worshipers who use Western technologies and play Western games.
Guess through which store many Russian developers sell their games. I’ll tell you – it is a foreign, the name begins on s, ends on Team.
At first I thought, did officials do not understand that all this would affect ordinary citizens, and then it came – they understand everything, but they do not care, because they are cheap.
There are no double standards. There is a poor understanding of the system of taxation and trading of digital goods (which is rather rental of goods, which is below).
To begin with VAT, this is such a tax that the manufacturer does not pay as such – it should pay the end customers – we. I will try as simple as possible.
T.e. For example, the plant makes a knob from a mop and a factory to make it you need to make materials for 100 rubles. VAT is added to these 100 rubles (let it be 20%for an even account- this is plus minus the average value in the countries of the former CIS) total 120. The plant sells pens from a mop to a company of 120 rubles and pays a treasury 20 rubles from a tax handle in the form of VAT (only VAT about all sorts of income taxes, pension and so on we are not talking now). After the company screws to the washcloth handles by increasing the cost of the product by another 120 rubles (again, let’s say that the price of a washcloth is 100 rubles and 20 VAT) ts.e. 240 and sell the mops to stores, the plant receives the right to demand its 20 rubles from the VAT handle back (the tax reimbursement is called), the plant does not receive this money, but as a rule it has a “tax bonus” in the amount of VAT on “later”. In turn, the company for the washcloths also receives its compensation after the shops sell its mop to the end customers of 250 rubles (let’s say 10 rubles to arrive for sales) … In general, no matter how long the chain is the final buyer/consumer, and the previous owners of the goods in the chain are given the right to “compensation for VAT”. The final consumer is one who no longer sells further and interrupts the chain.
Let’s get back to the games. We do not buy a specific one -time product such as a loaf of bread or mop. We buy the “right to use a license product” (you can read persons. Steam/GOG/PS Store and T Agreements.D.). T.E. We pay not for the goods, but only for the right. Which may stop, for example, with a stop of a thread of service or support what is written in persons of agreements to all games. Well, something remotely similar to rent, lasting the existence of goods paid by advance, or something. Even when buying a game on the disk of real goods, we only have a box and a blank. The product itself is the right to use and the product still belongs to the copyright holder.
In general, in order not to plunge into the jungle – for the creation and sale of the game, taxes for arriving and other other developers and the publisher have already paid in their country (including all taxes on employees’ salaries). What should be paid for the sale in our country is already included in the cost of the game and is calculated before the start of sales. And since no taxes should be paid twice, as a rule, in the regions, the publisher can afford to make less prices and t.D.
In general, if you include logic, then in our country they have the right to take VAT only for the price of the boxes and blanks themselves (such as from foreign cars – they produced there, they sell with us), and not the product of which the copyright holder is generally a foreign company. It is impossible, for example, to take VAT to our tax, if you rent a room in a foreign hotel from this hotel, although you are Russian, spend the Russian money that you earned in Russia – because the hotel has already paid all the taxes in his country.
In general, buying a game is rather rental (and piracy is how to live in someone else’s hut and not pay rent). = P
And the law is cherry because it makes the company pay taxes in their country and some kind of dick for publishers of the game. Therefore, the publishers will have a completely ass that you will have to pay taxes several times – first from the salaries of workers during the development, for sale when the game is ready, then for the implementation in the stimen, then for the purchase of the end user, and the steam naturally sends our tax because, in principle, it cannot pay VAT, since he is not a buyer of games from the publisher (he is not in a chain Grandmas for helping the publisher to sell games (steam service, not a counterparty),-the publisher will also not receive the right to compensation … In general, therefore the law “from all sides of the ass” and will actually not be able to work adequately and will not give our development. Well, foreign publishers – yes, they will simply raise prices to repel our law (although, by logic, they have nothing to do with the system of double -consuming counterparties, as well as Steam through which the right to use and is granted).
P.WITH. Sorry for the Bukaf wall – tried to simplify as best he could, because of which he could read Komkano and have semantic and logical errors "
Make torrents, fools.
I offer a compromise. Let the government adopt this law, but break down Denuvo))
I know I wanted to live honestly all this time, I suffered, I bought games for 4000 on the console, I suffered when I was forbidden to buy games in Steam because I live in this damned Crimea from which it all started. But you know, if you think that there is nowhere worse and this is the full bottom, then we thought the same when $ = 50 rubles, this is not the end, this is only the beginning! So return to me tsarist Russia, there at least emperors were in power and not some clowns!
OK, we begin to create a party with a bias on “no courtesans in parliament”, education and social benefits, but the “patriots” will say that we need an army and come to corruption, official reading, bureaucracy and other heritage of Russia. Glory to the country!
PS Sori for the politician, but why then place such news at all? And yet, continue to think that apolitics is the right and reasonable choice.
Probably screw additional taxes in the period when the country is at the bottom of a dubious initiative and everyone perfectly understands that these 10 billion will not go to anything useful, and the amount is not very large in the country’s scale. And in fact, Russian tax collection is theft, only official.